NBDE-Cost & Oppertunities

Posted on May 12 2012 - 1:19pm by sukanyamishra
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For Indian/foreign dentists to practice in America,DDS is a must and then again DDS is not all that easy.

Here is a little information that will help the aspiring ones settle down easily.

Certain colleges in the US that offer Advanced Standing Program (DDS/DMD) to foreign trained dentists require at least NDEB (National Dental Examining Board) Part I. Most of these require a score of at least 83-85%. To cut down the competition, the number of applicants and various other reasons some dental schools are also asking for NDBE Part II now.

Now there are certain points that every aspirant should be well versed with, to make it big in the new land.

Fortunately, US state boards don’t pay heed to the name of the college from where you got a DDS/DMD Degree.

 To practice in some states, the same is also not mandatory, 

however they may require you to have had attended at least 2 years of advanced training in dentistry in US… which means that the applicant should have completed a specialty program in dentistry which is recognized (permitted) in US.

ADVANCED STANDING PROGRAM: The dental schools that offer this program have increased in the recent past and the number of seats has also increased consequently. None-the-less, the competition is still high and they look for high scores in NDEB exams.

Although ADP web site does not lists schools that offer the program, sending e-mail to the dental school admission office will help you get all the required basic info. The dental schools provide all the financial help information, when approached.The banks or lender organizations ask for a co-applicant or a guarantor who is an American Citizen or at least a Green Card holder with a good credit.The average annual percentage of these loans range from 6.00% to 9.00% and is dependent upon the Federal Interest rate or another Federal rates published quarterly in financial reports in US. People who are either citizen/Green card holders of US, stand eligible to get the Federal Loan. The loans mentioned above.

US DDS/DMD Aspirants Please Go through this …

The following points need to be taken care of:

1) For NBDE Part 1:

Follow simple rules: Study Kaplan Material, which includes Dental Decks; 20 years Question papers and Review notes. Since new pattern has started from January 2007, make sure you have latest decks and other study materials like Remembered questions, Clinical Vignettes and Illustrations. In case, you don’t understand a topic, always refer your books which you studied during your BDS/MDS.

Apart from Kaplan material, you need a new latest book which is among hottest seller these days: First Aid to NBDE Part 1. This book is a short concise guide to write your NBDE Part 1. In case of further guidance and how to obtain these books you can always contact me.

2) The cost of appearing in Computerized NBDE Part 1 is US $250.

Apart from that Transcript Evaluation costs another US $125. Please have a Visa or Mastercard International Credit Card by this stage, otherwise you are just delaying your long application process by going to banks and wasting your time unnecessarily. Many universities accept only Credit card. So, have one as soon as possible.

3) Obtaining US Visa is the biggest hurdle in your American dreams. Remember, a few tips: Your confidence and the way you carry yourself is number one important factor. The interviewers at US embassy are personality readers and lie-detectors. Be truthful in front of them and never argue with them. Just answer clearly to whatever they say and never ever try to question their authority. B1/B2 category is for business/tourist visa and F1 is student visa.

4) If you score less than 85 percentile in NBDE Part 1, just forget your results and again take your exam. Admissions these days are highly competitive and you need greater than 87 percentile to stand a chance. Other thing you need to take is TOEFL iBT/ CBT (costing US $150) . Remember, TOEFL scores are valid for 2 years time while NBDE scores have atleast 10 years validity.

ADMISSION TO USA

5) Then follow the rigorous Application process:

At this stage you need:

a) Your official NBDE Part1 and TOEFL iBT/CBT scores. You need 100 in TOEFL iBT or 250 in CBT.

b) 3 Letters of Recommendation

c) A solid and professional Career Statement or Statement of Purpose

d) Transcript Evaluation Reports

e) Original Transcripts signed by Dean/Principal of your college/university

f) University/ Dental School selection depending upon your NBDE Part 1 scores and your GPA. Each application costs from US $75 to US $150.

g) Then if you get a call for interview…boom ….you have a great chance of making it. Again, interview needs strong communication and interpersonal skills.

h) In some universities, especially based in California, NBDE Part 2 and clinical skills are required; which needs clinical training. In my opinion, SHORT COURSES by ICDR can be really helpful for that aspect.

i) Then, if you get admitted to DDS/DMD program, you’ll need a co-signer (can be a relative or a friend) who is either a US citizen or Green card holder for your Student loan. Loans are very easy and long term like 15-20 years. The loan amount even covers your living expenses and if you have a spouse and children, they cover even that. Typically, yearly expenses are in the range of US $ 80,000 to one lakh dollar. So, a two year program will cost US $1,60,000 to US $200,000.

j) But here’s a good news after all the big expenses talk: DENTISTS and SPECIALIST DOCTORS remain the most lucrative and best salaried profession.

k) On an average, a dentist in USA starts from $ 100,000 to $ 1,25,000. In 2005,

5% Americans had an annual salary in excess of one lakh dollar or more. So, when you start your career in USA as a dentist, you straightaway belongs to upper 5% income group bracket in USA. That’s a big reward you get for all pains and hardships associated with being a dentist.

l) Above all, US unlike UK, has a stable work permit, read H1B, plans followed by
Green Card, and then US citizenship.

B) The second option is for MDS level dentists or BDS having good amount of work experience and research publications who want to do PG in US.

a) If you want to be a practicing dentist in USA, DDS is the only option.

b) But, in case u don’t want to do DDS and straightaway wants admission in MSD or MS in Dentistry in fields like General Dentistry, Pedodontics, Periodontics; Operative Dentistry; Endodontics; Dental Public Health (Preventive Dentistry) ; Orthodontics; admissions are highly competitive , but possible.

c) Foreign dental graduates are not eligible for MSD in Oral Surgery.

d) Orthodontics is again very tough to get into.

e) Majority of PG degree courses have NBDE Part 1 and Part 2 as admission criteria. These courses are equivalent to MDS in India (you can check DCI website) .

f) Most of these programs are two to three years on duration and need very strong academic and professional documentation.

g) Expenses are less as compared to DDS; range is from $ 20,000 to $ 70,000 per annum.

h) Jobs after completing your PG are in dental schools as faculty/research. But believe me, pay scales are even better than DDS…yes, its in excess of $1,50,000 and above.

C) The other option for DENTISTS and DOCTORS is to do Masters in Public Health (MPH) or Masters in Hospital Administration (MHA) . These courses don’t cost a bomb but again, salary levels are low as compared to dentists/physicians/specialists. But these degree courses does offer a good living in USA…as compared to rich living associated with Dentists/Doctors (as per US Standards) . The main thing needed is GRE and TOEFL and work experience. The fees for a typical two year course ranges from $ 22,000 to $ 45,000.

US DDS/DMD Aspirants Please Go through this…

On getting admission, you apply for F1 (Student visa) . But all this again needs strong documentation. The best part is US Immigration laws permit you to work 20 hrs /week on-campus during fall and spring and 40hrs/week during summer. Effectively, your earnings can take care of your monthly expenditure and also, you can get scholarships also to make your education free of cost, but everything needs to be planned before time and application deadlines are very strictly adhered by universities.

Some Common Questions and their Answers

Question :I have done four years BDS but has not completed internship. Got married and went to USA, what are his options now ? Can he join a DDS or any other pg course ?
Answer: You must complete your internship without it your degree is not complete and technically you are not a graduate.

Question : I am doing dentistry in India, can I write national board in US before completing internship?

Answer: Dental students in USA can write national boards part 1 after their 2nd year but part 2 can only be done after degree. I suggest that it is best that person does complete the degree and do the part 1 as this is a crucial score and a person must score 85 percentile or more for better future.

This Post is by the author who had cleared NBDE 3 years back & He is sharing his experiences here . Since then changes have taken place .

See this Post to know about all the latest changes that have taken place in the year 2012

DISCLAIMER : These informations have been provided by past candidates who have successfully moved from India to USA after BDS & currently pursuing DDS . Please note that , though the informations are accurate to the maximum level , but the rules by American Dental Association keeps changing . This article is just an attempt to provide a rough idea to all BDS students who are aiming for BDS . These informations are meant to give you some starting informations . For Detail and Latest Changes by American Dental Association see the official site http://www.ada.org/

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  1. dalbir singh December 4, 2011 at 11:33 pm - Reply

    sir
    i have completed my BDS degree.i have taken more than 1 attempt in my all semesters in BDS.can you please let me know whether it effect me if i go for DDS or not and if yes then can i solve this problem of mine .i want complete information about this. kindly help me out

    • Deb June 4, 2012 at 6:25 pm - Reply

      Yes , It definitely will have an effect if during NBDE Exams there is a tie between students & the college has to choose depending on Academic Performance .

      As a remedy you can try your best to score high marks in the NBDE Exams . Along with that recommendations from your previous university , your work experience , clinical work hours can also make a difference .

      So , all the best for your efforts .

  2. Mariam May 30, 2012 at 12:14 am - Reply

    Hello,
    I want to apply for a joint or combined certificate/masters program in pediatric dentistry in the US. I completed my BDS and am almost done with my internship, and so I am applying for the PASS/Match this year hopefully. I want to sit the NBDE part I exam, but I want to take a preparatory course for it in the US. Do you know where I can find places in the US that provide such courses? All the courses I found were online courses.

    Thanks a bunch :)

    • Deb May 31, 2012 at 1:20 am - Reply

      There are surely many groups of students preparing for NBDE who help out & share info with each other . On line coaching classes that provide materials are also there . You need to have Dental Decks & Kaplan Study materials for preparation . As for any class room coaching for NBDE preparation , not much information on that now . Will publish the info here when I come across any such class .

  3. nitika May 31, 2012 at 4:04 pm - Reply

    plzz anyone tell m about the full scholership program for dds in usa and canada in detail …plzzzz

    • Deb June 1, 2012 at 12:18 am - Reply

      If you want to take admission in DDS program in California, then you can check with your University for loan as well as scholarship otherwise these days so many banks are providing loans for Education abroad and at very less interest rates. Otherwise the organizations offering loans and scholarships in California are:

      College Student Loan Centre

      UCLA Financial Aid office

      AACN education

      So please check with them and fulfill the pre requisites of scholarships and start applying for it.

      As for online exam … The exams happen in 2 to 3 stages . The last stage of exams usually take place in the country you are trying for . So to clear the qualifying exam completely you will need to give the exams on spot . No Online exams will give you direct approval ( with respect to MBBS / BDS / DENTISTRY ) to directly practice in foreign countries .

  4. Dr S.Maheshwari July 3, 2012 at 3:29 pm - Reply

    Both my children are US Citizens and want to study BDS in India. As they will have to take admission Only in Private Dental Colleges in India under Capitation Fee for foreigners. Which r the Private Indian Dental Colleges whose BDS is recognised by US ADA for sitting for NBDME/DDS in USA in order to take up Dental Practice in US? Someone told me NO pvt Dental College BDS is allowed to sit for US Dental Boards !!

    • Deb July 3, 2012 at 10:10 pm - Reply

      I have seen colleges in Chennai India Giving Admission to USA students . Please verify the facts again from the Embassy and conform it .

      DO refer all the govt agencies before taking final decision .

  5. Nisha July 9, 2012 at 2:21 pm - Reply

    Hi sir,
    How can i pursue my Master degree in US in clinical subject?? I also want to know what would be the best option (MPH or MHA) to settle down in US after BDS?

  6. surendra reddy October 8, 2012 at 8:41 am - Reply

    sir,
    i appeared for final BDS in august and got result,but i have failed
    in community dentistry,this is the only subject i have failed in the
    entire course. I got an aggregate of 65%,please let me know
    whether it show any effect on GPA scores and DDS admissions.

    • Deb October 12, 2012 at 5:26 pm - Reply

      U can apply . There is no problem regarding that . Yes of course , in case of selection that will be compared with other candidates . But for up to date information always consult the American Embassy .

  7. Jessica Kaur Pahwa January 6, 2013 at 4:41 pm - Reply

    Sir,
    I am a second year BDS student and would like to pursue Oral and maxillofacial surgery in U.S.A. Can you please let me know whether Indian students are eligible and if so what are the requirements?

  8. Ritu January 26, 2013 at 8:30 pm - Reply

    i have completed BDS in india. I want to do DDS in the US but i dont have any friend or relative there. Can i still get a loan? Can my father be the co-signer in India? if not, what are the ways of securing a loan?

  9. sai February 3, 2013 at 12:33 am - Reply

    hi,i am usa citizen doing final yr bds in india. I know NBDE exam should be taken once, since 2011. what if a person score less than 80 in nbde’s and had multiple attempts during his BDS exams? will the above criteria effect the selection process.

    • Deb February 3, 2013 at 12:34 pm - Reply

      Multiple attempts doesn’t look good on the CV . So it might affect your selection . But 1st it is necessary to score beyond 80 .

  10. sruthi keerthi February 11, 2013 at 9:01 pm - Reply

    can you please provide information of where and how to get NBDE preparation material

    • Deb February 12, 2013 at 12:50 pm - Reply

      Either you can directly purchase the material or serarch in search engines like 4shared .

  11. juhi February 16, 2013 at 3:08 am - Reply

    hello sir.firstly i would like to thank you for your highly informative articles.kindly tell what are the future prospects after DDS?do foreign trained dentists have enough opportunities for job after doing DDS?are the loans easily paid off?

    • Deb February 16, 2013 at 12:52 pm - Reply

      If after all the hurdels you manage to do DDS … Then yes your future is very bright . As dentistry is one of the most high paying jobs in USA … And the loans can be paid off … Also you can work as a govt . Employee also … So many options are there … But its the road to DDS that’s tough and needs lot of preparation …

  12. Chinmoye February 24, 2013 at 9:15 pm - Reply

    hi Deb
    firstly thnks a ton for yr extremly comprehensive information about the subject.Could you plz tell me how to prepare for NBDE part 1? Just d books to mentioned above are enough or does one needs to go to coaching centre as well? Iam in India at present.

    • Deb March 3, 2013 at 5:07 pm - Reply

      NBDE 1 you know the course syllabus . So u will need to get the test papers like KAPLAN etc and start solving them

  13. MEET March 8, 2013 at 11:18 am - Reply

    sir i cleared nbde 1 and now preparing for part 2……….can u pls tell me abt the bench test and interview procedure???mostly in relation to california universities…..

    • Deb March 9, 2013 at 12:41 am - Reply

      Will try to provide infos on Californian Universities .

  14. aishwarya reddy March 8, 2013 at 9:51 pm - Reply

    hi.sir.fristly i would like to thnaku for your valuble information about studies sir.i am dng internship now.want to study in abroad.is there any coaching center in india? whats the portion for nbde part 1. is the same portion as MDS ENTRANCE EXAM?.i dont hve any relatives or friensds in USA..hOw can i apply for loan? Is there any other option to apply loan?…should i prepare for ilets or tofel or GRE.

  15. monica udenia April 19, 2013 at 10:59 pm - Reply

    you mentioned in the article about the pg degrees abroad which are equivalent to mds in india and will cost less then dds? can i apply for such pg degrees after i complete bds from india? can you tell me the eligiblity and the exam which i need to qualify to get into the college? will i need to qualift both 1 and 2 parts of nbde or ny other exam also?

    • Deb April 21, 2013 at 8:57 am - Reply

      Any PG degree , that you want to get in the abroad … for that you will need to clear the qualifying exams . Many options are there like Canada , Australia , New Zealand . The infos given here might undergo slight changes . So the best option for you to get the all the latest infos is to contact the embassies in your country .

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